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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is almost impossible to get &quot;published&quot;.  Most of these things have to go underground.  Believe me I know.  I have been doing a documentary film on the subject.  I have been following the Asian massage parlor industry in RI, the only state where prostitution is legal.  I followed 3 women in the spas while the Mayor fought to change the law and make prostitution illegal.  The film is having trouble getting played because of the subject.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is almost impossible to get &#8220;published&#8221;.  Most of these things have to go underground.  Believe me I know.  I have been doing a documentary film on the subject.  I have been following the Asian massage parlor industry in RI, the only state where prostitution is legal.  I followed 3 women in the spas while the Mayor fought to change the law and make prostitution illegal.  The film is having trouble getting played because of the subject.<br />
<a href="http://www.happyendingsdoc.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.happyendingsdoc.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: hexy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hexy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can appreciate keeping all entries anonymous, but my question would be this: Where is the statement of what she plans to do with them?

I might sound a bit jumpy, but I&#039;d be a lot happier if there was some kind of disclaimer stating that all &quot;letters&quot; remained the property of their authors and would not be used elsewhere without specific permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can appreciate keeping all entries anonymous, but my question would be this: Where is the statement of what she plans to do with them?</p>
<p>I might sound a bit jumpy, but I&#8217;d be a lot happier if there was some kind of disclaimer stating that all &#8220;letters&#8221; remained the property of their authors and would not be used elsewhere without specific permission.</p>
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		<title>By: Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In Their *Own* Words</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingvixen.audaciaray.com/2008/01/30/sex-workers-speak-up-but-who-publishes-it/comment-page-1/#comment-49117</link>
		<dc:creator>Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In Their *Own* Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Audacia Ray&#8217;s reaction (and discussion in comments) to Letters from Working Girls [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In Their *Own* Words</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingvixen.audaciaray.com/2008/01/30/sex-workers-speak-up-but-who-publishes-it/comment-page-1/#comment-49118</link>
		<dc:creator>Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In Their *Own* Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Audacia Ray&#8217;s reaction (and discussion in comments) to Letters from Working Girls [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Three Good Reads</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingvixen.audaciaray.com/2008/01/30/sex-workers-speak-up-but-who-publishes-it/comment-page-1/#comment-49115</link>
		<dc:creator>Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Three Good Reads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Dacia questions Reverse Cowgirl&#8217;s co-opting of sex workers&#8217; stories. It&#8217;s worth following all of the links, reading the comments and giving it some thought yourself. I think I vaguely recall Reverse Cowgirl&#8217;s blog going down for a period of time years ago (2003?) after which I abandoned reading it (shortly after discovering it, so I never got really &#8220;into&#8221; it). I do not relish the idea of someone who deletes blog history or is in the habit of abandoning her blogs compiling a bunch of stories by other people only to have them mysteriously disappear or be gathered up, deleted, and perhaps be republished in a book. Since she *is* a published author/more experienced (and, I assume, more ambitious) with publishing than your average hobbyist blogger, I&#8217;m curious if she has plans beyond the blogs for these stories she&#8217;s collecting and, if so, if she gets permission from the contributors for future/other uses (my guess is no, since the contributions are anonymous). Just thinking out loud and hypothesizing here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] *Dacia questions Reverse Cowgirl&#8217;s co-opting of sex workers&#8217; stories. It&#8217;s worth following all of the links, reading the comments and giving it some thought yourself. I think I vaguely recall Reverse Cowgirl&#8217;s blog going down for a period of time years ago (2003?) after which I abandoned reading it (shortly after discovering it, so I never got really &#8220;into&#8221; it). I do not relish the idea of someone who deletes blog history or is in the habit of abandoning her blogs compiling a bunch of stories by other people only to have them mysteriously disappear or be gathered up, deleted, and perhaps be republished in a book. Since she *is* a published author/more experienced (and, I assume, more ambitious) with publishing than your average hobbyist blogger, I&#8217;m curious if she has plans beyond the blogs for these stories she&#8217;s collecting and, if so, if she gets permission from the contributors for future/other uses (my guess is no, since the contributions are anonymous). Just thinking out loud and hypothesizing here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Three Good Reads</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingvixen.audaciaray.com/2008/01/30/sex-workers-speak-up-but-who-publishes-it/comment-page-1/#comment-49116</link>
		<dc:creator>Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Three Good Reads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Dacia questions Reverse Cowgirl&#8217;s co-opting of sex workers&#8217; stories. It&#8217;s worth following all of the links, reading the comments and giving it some thought yourself. I think I vaguely recall Reverse Cowgirl&#8217;s blog going down for a period of time years ago (2003?) after which I abandoned reading it (shortly after discovering it, so I never got really &#8220;into&#8221; it). I do not relish the idea of someone who deletes blog history or is in the habit of abandoning her blogs compiling a bunch of stories by other people only to have them mysteriously disappear or be gathered up, deleted, and perhaps be republished in a book. Since she *is* a published author/more experienced (and, I assume, more ambitious) with publishing than your average hobbyist blogger, I&#8217;m curious if she has plans beyond the blogs for these stories she&#8217;s collecting and, if so, if she gets permission from the contributors for future/other uses (my guess is no, since the contributions are anonymous). Just thinking out loud and hypothesizing here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] *Dacia questions Reverse Cowgirl&#8217;s co-opting of sex workers&#8217; stories. It&#8217;s worth following all of the links, reading the comments and giving it some thought yourself. I think I vaguely recall Reverse Cowgirl&#8217;s blog going down for a period of time years ago (2003?) after which I abandoned reading it (shortly after discovering it, so I never got really &#8220;into&#8221; it). I do not relish the idea of someone who deletes blog history or is in the habit of abandoning her blogs compiling a bunch of stories by other people only to have them mysteriously disappear or be gathered up, deleted, and perhaps be republished in a book. Since she *is* a published author/more experienced (and, I assume, more ambitious) with publishing than your average hobbyist blogger, I&#8217;m curious if she has plans beyond the blogs for these stories she&#8217;s collecting and, if so, if she gets permission from the contributors for future/other uses (my guess is no, since the contributions are anonymous). Just thinking out loud and hypothesizing here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, must say I disagree completely and can&#039;t see your issue. Maybe because I&#039;m not involved with the adult industries?

So Breslin made some blogs where people submit content which she posts without revealing their names or links? That&#039;s nothing new. In fact, it&#039;s a huge area of the blogosphere right now. People like specialized, anonymous blogs containing posts from multiple authors. They like going someplace and knowing exactly what they&#039;re getting. That&#039;s why PostSecret has had international success and a thousand other sites take after it. I personally love them.

Say I&#039;m a &quot;working girl&quot; with a blog. It&#039;s not going to be all about my night job, sorry. Just because a working girl has a blog, doesn&#039;t mean it will touch on the work at all. And if that&#039;s what you want, you&#039;ll have to do a lot more searching to find those interesting tidbits whereas, both of these sites, give you exactly what you want immediately. 

Furthermore, while begging for content from other communities and sites is annoying, it&#039;s nothing that hasn&#039;t been done before.

If someone wants credit for their story or a link, it&#039;s pretty obvious they won&#039;t get it at Letters from Johns/Working Girls and they should simply stay away as I&#039;m sure many have. However, as mentioned, there&#039;s myriad reasons why one would want to tell just a story or remain anonymous or not have to maintain a blog and that gives submission blogs a strong presence in the online community.

Lastly, you say it would be better for Working Girls to have their own blogs or post on working girl-specific sites and I&#039;m sure many do. These blogs are not about -them- however. They&#039;re about the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, must say I disagree completely and can&#8217;t see your issue. Maybe because I&#8217;m not involved with the adult industries?</p>
<p>So Breslin made some blogs where people submit content which she posts without revealing their names or links? That&#8217;s nothing new. In fact, it&#8217;s a huge area of the blogosphere right now. People like specialized, anonymous blogs containing posts from multiple authors. They like going someplace and knowing exactly what they&#8217;re getting. That&#8217;s why PostSecret has had international success and a thousand other sites take after it. I personally love them.</p>
<p>Say I&#8217;m a &#8220;working girl&#8221; with a blog. It&#8217;s not going to be all about my night job, sorry. Just because a working girl has a blog, doesn&#8217;t mean it will touch on the work at all. And if that&#8217;s what you want, you&#8217;ll have to do a lot more searching to find those interesting tidbits whereas, both of these sites, give you exactly what you want immediately. </p>
<p>Furthermore, while begging for content from other communities and sites is annoying, it&#8217;s nothing that hasn&#8217;t been done before.</p>
<p>If someone wants credit for their story or a link, it&#8217;s pretty obvious they won&#8217;t get it at Letters from Johns/Working Girls and they should simply stay away as I&#8217;m sure many have. However, as mentioned, there&#8217;s myriad reasons why one would want to tell just a story or remain anonymous or not have to maintain a blog and that gives submission blogs a strong presence in the online community.</p>
<p>Lastly, you say it would be better for Working Girls to have their own blogs or post on working girl-specific sites and I&#8217;m sure many do. These blogs are not about -them- however. They&#8217;re about the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As libby pointed out, this is just the latest of many blog-like projects Breslin has undertaken.  She&#039;s got a history of deleting them after relatively short periods of time.  So I&#039;d say, this too shall pass.

As someone who makes my living by compiling and linking and reposting to titillating material of all kinds, I don&#039;t really see her project as &quot;leaching&quot; or exploitative.  But I do see it as a poor choice of venue for publishing these stories, because judging by track record, the site will be gone in two years.

I have speculated privately in the past that she&#039;s uncomfortable, or at least has  complex / mixed feelings about the erotic material she blogs about; it would explain why she doesn&#039;t consider it valuable enough to preserve after she&#039;s published it.  Her vicious snark in connection with the current brouhaha sort of tends to reinforce my no-longer-private suspicion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As libby pointed out, this is just the latest of many blog-like projects Breslin has undertaken.  She&#8217;s got a history of deleting them after relatively short periods of time.  So I&#8217;d say, this too shall pass.</p>
<p>As someone who makes my living by compiling and linking and reposting to titillating material of all kinds, I don&#8217;t really see her project as &#8220;leaching&#8221; or exploitative.  But I do see it as a poor choice of venue for publishing these stories, because judging by track record, the site will be gone in two years.</p>
<p>I have speculated privately in the past that she&#8217;s uncomfortable, or at least has  complex / mixed feelings about the erotic material she blogs about; it would explain why she doesn&#8217;t consider it valuable enough to preserve after she&#8217;s published it.  Her vicious snark in connection with the current brouhaha sort of tends to reinforce my no-longer-private suspicion.</p>
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		<title>By: $pread Blog &#187; Sex Worker Credits</title>
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		<dc:creator>$pread Blog &#187; Sex Worker Credits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From Waking Vixen:Sex workers speak up: but who publishes it?&quot;Maybe I&#8217;m splitting hairs here, but I really value sex worker run, written and edited spaces. Instead of sending your stories about being a sex worker to that blog, we should encourage sex workers to start their own blogs or participate here on Bound, Not Gagged. There are many other sex worker bloggers who I&#8217;m sure would love to give a platform or guest blogging spot to sex workers who don&#8217;t want to start blogs but have a story to tell. I personally would rather see that than see sex workers send their writing to a blogger who, to my knowledge, isn&#8217;t a sex worker. This isn&#8217;t to say that Susannah has evil intentions for our words, but I&#8217;d rather see those words in sex worker run spaces.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From Waking Vixen:Sex workers speak up: but who publishes it?&quot;Maybe I&rsquo;m splitting hairs here, but I really value sex worker run, written and edited spaces. Instead of sending your stories about being a sex worker to that blog, we should encourage sex workers to start their own blogs or participate here on Bound, Not Gagged. There are many other sex worker bloggers who I&rsquo;m sure would love to give a platform or guest blogging spot to sex workers who don&rsquo;t want to start blogs but have a story to tell. I personally would rather see that than see sex workers send their writing to a blogger who, to my knowledge, isn&rsquo;t a sex worker. This isn&rsquo;t to say that Susannah has evil intentions for our words, but I&rsquo;d rather see those words in sex worker run spaces.&quot; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Working Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of the &quot;working girls&quot; that sent a story in to Susannah.  Here&#039;s why I did it.

Amber hit the nail on the head, kinda:  

&quot;However, I do think Letters from Working Girls serves a purpose, for people who might not yet be comfortable posting elsewhere. It might seem silly but I can relate to the feeling of wanting to slowly dip your toe into something, and being so terrified of the possible (real or imagined) repercussions.&quot;

It isn&#039;t so much that I&#039;m afraid of repercussions, I just wanted to tell ONE story, and have it heard.  Her project was an outlet for that.  At this moment (and it could change) I don&#039;t feel the need to write about sex work all that frequently (I tried to blog about it but it got neglected because I was rarely inspired to sit down and write about it).  I wanted a one-off, where I could say something and have it heard, and there it was.  

I also don&#039;t think that the aim of Susannah&#039;s site is the same as the aim of the sites in the sex worker community.  I could be wrong, since I am a relative stranger to sites like these, but these sites seem more geared towards discussion of experiences within the community, whereas her &quot;Letters&quot; project is intended for readers outside.  Collecting letters in one place could serve to enlighten someone to the range of (very, very different) reasons people buy or sell sex, in a way that a singular sex worker&#039;s blog couldn&#039;t.  I kind of like that idea. 

I would write more but I am sick and going to bed.  I appreciate both sides of this issue though, and I&#039;ll probably be poking around on sites like this more often now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of the &#8220;working girls&#8221; that sent a story in to Susannah.  Here&#8217;s why I did it.</p>
<p>Amber hit the nail on the head, kinda:  </p>
<p>&#8220;However, I do think Letters from Working Girls serves a purpose, for people who might not yet be comfortable posting elsewhere. It might seem silly but I can relate to the feeling of wanting to slowly dip your toe into something, and being so terrified of the possible (real or imagined) repercussions.&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t so much that I&#8217;m afraid of repercussions, I just wanted to tell ONE story, and have it heard.  Her project was an outlet for that.  At this moment (and it could change) I don&#8217;t feel the need to write about sex work all that frequently (I tried to blog about it but it got neglected because I was rarely inspired to sit down and write about it).  I wanted a one-off, where I could say something and have it heard, and there it was.  </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think that the aim of Susannah&#8217;s site is the same as the aim of the sites in the sex worker community.  I could be wrong, since I am a relative stranger to sites like these, but these sites seem more geared towards discussion of experiences within the community, whereas her &#8220;Letters&#8221; project is intended for readers outside.  Collecting letters in one place could serve to enlighten someone to the range of (very, very different) reasons people buy or sell sex, in a way that a singular sex worker&#8217;s blog couldn&#8217;t.  I kind of like that idea. </p>
<p>I would write more but I am sick and going to bed.  I appreciate both sides of this issue though, and I&#8217;ll probably be poking around on sites like this more often now.</p>
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